euro nationals?

It doesn't do too much to the deck. I have done it to players a few times.

It doesn't do too much??? It kills all momentum in one sweep

You still need a Cyber Dragon on the Field.
System Down kill all in one sweep with less cost.

Wait. Wait. People still side-deck that CARD?

its a cheaper and much more permanent solution to gadgets for people who dont have fortress dragons. not a bad card at all to be honest. or we could just go really old school and go DDV then system down

WAIT. WAIT. Why would you want to System Down their graveyard?

wtf what a crappy counter,maybe to pay the 1000 for system down to activate megamorph...

System Down is useless against StunGadget.

No its not, it allows for the complete removal of all machines in your opponents grave shutting down great STUN cards like call of the haunted,overload fusion chaos sorcerer,scrap recycler, factory of a 1000 machines,etc. Not too mention when your opponent activates dimension fusion in the traditional phase they lose 2800 lifepoints instead of 2000 as you can negate it with their oppression..

The problem with the Gadgets is that advantage yugioh doesn't work any more. Also the deck struggles against something which manages to set up because of the one for one nature. Also the sheer variety of viable decks mean that it is difficult to counter any one particular strategy. And because Cyber Dragon is a good card to play atm.

True story

What about Gladiator Beasts? So any one-for-one deck is rendered useless?

I dont believe decks become outdated. bane lists are there to keep the game neutral as we asume but more so for control of what should sell and what shouldnt. ls is outdated because it a little old and newer cards need to sell more than them thus the shift in ban stays in place. right now is when things should be coming off for them but they arnt coz the deck will still dominate if there were taken off. dark hole came back coz of star light road. chaos on 3 coz of warning( my opinion) and thus will be the pattern. Im not upset about it i know that sworn is awesome ban list or not. it may not have the oomph it used to have but it still awesome

BlackCat wrote:

What about Gladiator Beasts? So any one-for-one deck is rendered useless?

Are you really comparing GBs to gadgets?

They a deck that one-for-one's in most circumstances, depending on the build, and like Gadgets,they barely top.

Zombies barely topped since few weeks ago..

The difference is that Gladiator Beasts always seem to be the good deck for the format, and people played it more than Zombies.

Yeah what is up with the GB hype every list change

Nobody knows what the other decks can do when the list affects them, but because GB never gets hit anymore, people expect it to beat the decks that get hit.

Yeah with GB Torax still on 3 one would expect them to be a dominating force

It's cause the deck is able to handle a range of things making it a good pick when you don't know what you'll be facing.

You mean Spartacus + Saber hole

No. Gravekeeper's Chief wins games.

+ Saber hole

Sabre Hole, Darksoul and Fultroll all kinda rhyme.

and there's nothing wrong with GK Chief.