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Jascha Moderator
Join date : 2011-06-05 Posts : 253 Age : 35
| Subject: flamvell deck Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:47 am | |
| ok i put a build together but it dont work.. my issue with the flamvell's is that the can pull almost anything with firedog but i y would you wana keep them on field rather than syncing, so they end up having no field presence. rekindling is the end goal obviously but hard to keep the deck putting pressure on your opp to do a proper uninterupted rekindling. you almost always end up on the back foot but hey thats coz they dont have there own engine i gess. if you have any idea's for field presence with them let me know but this was the build i was testing.
Monsters
firedog x3 magician x2 paun x1 neo flam hedge hog x2 neo flam garuda x1 neo flam shamin x1 neo flam origin x1 lyla x2 ufo turtle x3 kycoo x2 the fairy o thai cant remember what he's called x2
Spell: rekindling x3 burdin of the mighty x3 trunade x1 nobleman of extremination x2 moon x1 enemy x1 reborn x1 stone excavation x1 charge x1
traps6 flamvell counter x3 call of the haunted x1 urgent tuning x2
let me know what you think | |
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Dispised Admin
Join date : 2011-04-10 Posts : 111
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:57 am | |
| why not play more back line destruction. the deck has a huge 1900 atk monster. also play some kind of monster destruction for monsters that are too big to climb over. also why not play ryco instead of lyla? | |
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Jascha Moderator
Join date : 2011-06-05 Posts : 253 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:02 am | |
| will note those. the lyla is coz people know when you have a facedow its a riko they jst distroy it and if you adding riko to hand thats a one turn delay. but i think the choice is in the player on the riko vs lyla. riko can be hamstered to field which is alot quicker than lyla and riko on first turn is t surprise. i think it can go wether way | |
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Dispised Admin
Join date : 2011-04-10 Posts : 111
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:09 am | |
| i doesnt really matter. the threat of ryco is the objective, remember destrucion of facedowns come in theforms of spells, ergo one can foresee this and counter. also if you play backline destrucion then ryco becomes amonster killer and then synchro material. | |
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Jascha Moderator
Join date : 2011-06-05 Posts : 253 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:13 am | |
| aaah i like your way of thinking about that. cool so put in 2 mst to compliment the 2 extermination and flamvell counters and what monster distructon? gor for a 1 for 1 set like fissure ? | |
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Dispised Admin
Join date : 2011-04-10 Posts : 111
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:18 am | |
| the only thing you may have trouble with is hand controll. if you playdusttornado as well you will be running a lot of backine, then if you run cards like prison etc, youre able to controll their monsters. then you will be able to bring big synchros andgain more and more advantage. | |
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Jascha Moderator
Join date : 2011-06-05 Posts : 253 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:46 am | |
| - Dispised wrote:
- the only thing you may have trouble with is hand controll. if you playdusttornado as well you will be running a lot of backine, then if you run cards like prison etc, youre able to controll their monsters. then you will be able to bring big synchros andgain more and more advantage.
wouldnt playing more backline distruction be a bit over kill. im already playing 2 mst, 2 extermination, 3 flamvell counter and riko/lyla depending. prison is cool. i dont have any that y i normaly build decks without them. | |
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Jascha Moderator
Join date : 2011-06-05 Posts : 253 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:54 am | |
| Monsters 20
firedog x3 magician x2 paun x1 neo flam hedge hog x2 neo flam garuda x1 neo flam shamin x1 neo flam origin x1 ryko x2 hamster x1 ufo turtle x2 kycoo x2 the fairy o thai cant remember what he's called x2
Spell: 13 rekindling x3 burdin of the mighty x2 nobleman of extremination x2 moon x1 reborn x1 stone excavation x1 charge x1 mst x2
traps7 flamvell counter x2 prison x3 bottemless x2 | |
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Darksoul Veteran
Join date : 2011-08-27 Posts : 102 Location : Here and there
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:32 pm | |
| - Jascha wrote:
- the fairy o thai cant remember what he's called x2
Absorbing kid from the sky??? | |
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Jascha Moderator
Join date : 2011-06-05 Posts : 253 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:16 pm | |
| NO! i ment dimentional alcemist | |
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Sabbaticus Admin
Join date : 2011-06-08 Posts : 59 Age : 37 Location : Pretoria
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:40 am | |
| To be honest this is a pretty bad build. I can't imagine it would get you too many wins. Flamvell is one of my favourite decks and I've been running them online for a long time. I'm just going to give you 1 of my 2 builds since if I were to make suggestions on what you currently have I would take out over 50% of your cards. This decklist is OCG so you would need to make tweaks to it. Depending on your know-how on how to run Flamvell and of course your skill as a player, this build should get you a 90% plus win rate, 95% plus depending on the meta you go up against.
Monsters 21 3x Flamvell Firedog 3x Flamvell Magician 2x Flamvell Archer (personal preference, I love this guy since with Rekindling you can tribute him if you don't synchro him out to save him from getting banished, you can maybe run 2 Hedghog's in his place, same lv and attrib, just diff effect) 2x Flamvell Sabre (most people won't use this, he is a 2100 early game, also summon with Firedog for a rank 4 Xyz. He's useful for other things too) 2x Flamvell Poun (great for also searching Lyla and Plague, and getting Trish) 2x Ryko Lightworn Hunter (Ryko is semi-limited online, run 3 if you can) 2x Caius the Shadow Monarch 1x Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress 1x Card Trooper 1x Super-Nimble Mega Hamster (only because Ryko is semi-limited) 1x Gorz the Emissary of Darkness 1x Plaguespreader Zombie
Spells 14 3x Rekindling 2x Pot of Duality 2x Book of Moon (obviously this will drop to 1 for TCG) 2x Mystical Space Typhoon 1x Monster Reborn 1x Dark Hole 1x Giant Trunade (replace for Heavy Storm) 1x Charge of the Light Brigade 1x Pot of Avarice (limited unfortunately :\)
Traps 5 2x Solemn Warning 1x Solemn Judgment 1x Torrential Tribute 1x Mirror Force
Extra Deck (add whichever Xyz's you need, online doesn't run them yet) 1x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon 1x Dark End Dragon (maybe replace for an Xyz or 2nd Scrap Dragon) 1x Brionac Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1x Flamvell Uruquizas 1x Ally of Justice Catastor 1x Colossal Fighter 2x Stardust Dragon 1x Thought Ruler Archfiend 1x Black Rose Dragon 1x Gaia Knight the Force of Earth 1x Arcanite Magician (replace with an Xyz) 1x Flamvell Deity 1x Trishula Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1x Scrap Dragon
My other build is my first Flamvell deck which runs like Flamvell Monarchs, using 3 GK Spy + 1 GK Descendant, and 3 Caius. Very different playstyle though. The above deck does not run itself, it takes skill, and the more you have the better the deck becomes. Hope this helps.
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Tirion Veteran
Join date : 2011-05-27 Posts : 249 Age : 37 Location : Durban
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm | |
| Yo Jasche kill the signature. Its far to big takes for ever to load a page on my phone.
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Yudheer Veteran
Join date : 2011-06-02 Posts : 522
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:35 pm | |
| - Tirion wrote:
- Yo Jasche kill the signature. Its far to big takes for ever to load a page on my phone.
Don't hate | |
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Tirion Veteran
Join date : 2011-05-27 Posts : 249 Age : 37 Location : Durban
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:48 pm | |
| Its not the picture its just the size.
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Jascha Moderator
Join date : 2011-06-05 Posts : 253 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:34 pm | |
| dude didnt i say it dosnt work. I was looking for help and thanks for it but i did say it was crap. anyway i was avoiding POD, WARNING, TRISH and others as the point of most of my deck posts are for up and coming duelists or to question the norm. Nyc build though and i agree that would work much better then myn.
and T-ZILLA kiss my chilli powder covered buttocks.....I DONT CARE HOW BIG IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIZE ALWAYS MATTERS | |
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Sabbaticus Admin
Join date : 2011-06-08 Posts : 59 Age : 37 Location : Pretoria
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:59 pm | |
| I was referring to your updated build, and I saw nothing about avoiding POD, Warning and Trish. POD and Warning are reprints now so it's not like they're expensive or hard to get. If after the reprints you still want to avoid them then you can replace the Warnings for Bottomless, replace the Trish for Mist Wurm or Xyz. There's nothing you can really replace the POD's for, maybe just 2 Prisons or whatever else.
I'm an up and coming duelist with few cards (IRL though, online I have alot) and I'm currently building this deck, it's not expensive. Only thing that puts the value up is Trish, Scrap Dragon and if you add a Steelswarm Roach perhaps. Things like Brio etc apply for most decks so in most cases people will already have the majority of the synchros. | |
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V0rk72
Join date : 2011-12-24 Posts : 3
| Subject: Re: flamvell deck Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:08 pm | |
| if your running flamvells one of the first things you should do is make sure your running 3 magicians, also giant trunade is banned flamvell garuda isn't worth having in the deck, if you want a level four flamvell and you've already topped out on dogs use sabre, he's a 2100 first turn monster, and if your not playing him first turn your probably trying to synchro using him also you may want to make fewer cards in your magic/traps if you switch out enough you can put in some magical merchants, also i don't see the point in using kycoo or dimensional alchemist also what synchro monsters are you using? if the flamvells are done well your have amazing opprotunities for synchroing, it can easily summon red nova dragon, you can put in ally of justice catastor for overall destruction to non dark decks, armory arm for a good boost to a powerful monster and effective method to take down lifepoints, black rose dragon to clear the field for a easy direct attack, stardust for typical protection, black winged dragon for anti-burndeck
I'm newish here but irl i run flamvells and am currently trying to perfect the deck
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